Part 1: Introduction and Origins
TAKEN FROM:Â http://salafitalk.net
Those using Paltalk recently will have noticed a room open with the title “Allaah Exists Without a Place”. The people behind this room are Innovators, and they have got together a large number of people and made them to log into this room whenever they are online. It is a non-speaking room, so they can log into it and just leave it in the background. For most of the time, when there are no other lectures, this room will always appear at the top, on account of the large number of people who have logged into the room, being part of this deceptive plan. Look at the ways of these Innovators in trying to spread their baatil!! Know that the intent behind this phrase is to deny Allaah’s Uluww, His being above the Throne, above the seven heavens, which is established by the Book, the Sunnah, Ijmaa of the Sahaabah and the Salaf. The origin of this lies in the philosophy of the Greek Homosexual philosophers, which asserts that there is a parallel universe in existence to this universe, and this parallel universe is free from physical essences, incidental occurrences, it has no form or shape, and it cannot be pointed to physically, its location cannot be identified or pointed to, nearness and farness cannot be ascribed to it, and no attributes of movement, can be ascribed to it. It is a universe that is just a “mere existence” and nothing more, and it is more perfect than this universe, because it cannot admit to any change, or transformation, or incidental occurrence and the likes.
Also, these philosphers tried to understand this (our) universe by way of substance and accident, form and matter, and they devised ten “categories” that all entities fall into (substance, quantity, quality, relative, where, when, position (i.e. posture), having, doing, being affected), so all entities in existence would fall into any of these ten “categories”, or a combination thereof.
This thought, when it was entered into the Muslims by the translation of the works of these Greek homosexuals, entered numerous factions amongst the Muslims into this philosophical nonsense, which itself was based upon athiesm. And it had an effect upon the aqaa’id of the Muslims concerning speech about Allaah, the Most High, His Names and Attributes and Actions.
It was actually from here that the negation of the attributes, spread further than what it had already (at the hands of the innovations of the likes of Ja’d and Jahm decades earlier, who gave rise to the Mu’attilah). The later negators amongst them, when they came across this knowledge, thought that it was amazing and that it would support their madhhab. So they entered into it, and the result of it is what you hear today from these Innovators, Deviants, Heretics, who are the descendants of those ones:
“Allaah is not inside the universe, nor outside of it, nor to the left of it, nor to the right of it, nor above, nor below it….”
“Allaah exists without a place”
“We cannot attribute direction to Allaah”
“Allaah exists without a jism”
And many other slogans and phrases. So they entered many of these statements, which were unknown to the Salaf before them, and then entered confusion upon the people, and in the name of Tanzeeh (purifying Allaah of any deficiencies), they negated the Attributes of the Lord Most High, and to many of them, when this philosophy overtook them and Ahl us-Sunnah refuted them, they became bewildered and were led to disbelief (the extreme Jahmiyyah, Baatiniyyah), because they gave rein to the intellect, over the Book and the Sunnah, and they gave preference to the mental refuse of the Greek homosexual philosophers than the purity of belief of the Salaf us-Saalih who came before them.
Due to the political situation, these beliefs were spread widely in the Muslim lands, as many of those in authority in the Muslim lands became affected by these doctrines, and the Innovators had closeness to those in authority and influenced them. And all of this gave way to Ta’teel (negation) being disguised as Tanzeeh, and Ithbaat (of Allaah’s Attributes) being belittled as Tashbeeh.
The Tanzeeh that these Innovators make attachment to, is nothing but the abstraction of that parallel universe of the Greek philosophers, and the Lord that they believe in, is subject to that same abstraction.
So when you see these Innovators amongst the Negators (Mu’attilah), in their various groupings, and those deceived by them today, and you hear them negating for Allaah what He affirmed for himself (in the variety of different ways that they do), then know that when they speak of Allaah the Most High in this way, they are merely talking the talk and walking the walk, and jiving the jive of the Greek Phaggocytes, those who spoke about their parallel perfect universe with nothing but negation and meaningless abstractions.
Do them a favour, and let them know whom they guide themselves by in reality.
